Becoming Allies through Self-Healing
by Lyla June Johnston
Excerpted (by Rebecca Selove) from Kathleen Rude’s interview with Dr. Lyla June Johnston .
KATHLEEN: Lyla June is an Indigenous musician, scholar and community organizer of Diné, Cheyenne and European lineages. Her research focuses on the ways in which pre-colonial indigenous nations shape large regions of Turtle Island to produce abundant food systems for humans and nonhumans. Her other messages focused on indigenous rights supporting youth, traditional land stewardship practices, and healing intergenerational and intercultural trauma. Welcome, Lyla June, to this gathering.
LYLA: We call ourselves Diné, which means “all the people, as my people and as my kin, my relatives.” And I have to honor that clan, which I get from my mother. We get our last names from our mothers and not from our fathers. So that’s the lineage that I carry. … I think the common denominator between all of the things I do is communications, transmitting knowledge, transmitting information, transmitting paradigms and ideas. I’m like a transmitter, I think, and a messenger. It’s what I think I do through a variety of media.
KATHLEEN: What are some of the teachings that you feel are most important for humanity to learn now, and could help heal our planet, our relationship to the planet and our societies today?
We have to heal ourselves from our personal, racial, and collective existential trauma.
How do we serve as a vessel that is here to give?
And then another one is when you have your first menstrual cycle, you have a four day ceremony, and you grind corn for four days. This corn is used to create a very large cake about a foot deep. It’s made of corn cake, you bake it in the ground covered in corn husk; it’s delicious. After the fourth day after you grind all this corn, you bake it on the fourth night in the ground, and you sing all-night ceremonies, songs going into the cake, altering the consistency of that cake through our songs and our prayers. And then you give it all away, you can’t have a single bite. What we’re teaching the young woman is that you have the power to feed a nation, and that your womanhood rests in your ability to be a giver.
And then there’s some nations where the manhood ceremony involves killing a first deer, right, and he has to give it all away, he has to give the deer – he can’t have a single bite. And that’s to teach him to be a giver.
Self-worth in our [Diné] culture is defined by how much you can give.
KATHLEEN: Thank you. … the question comes up of cultural appropriation and how do we work with? How do we work with the teachings of the peoples who know the songs of this land that we’re on? And do it in a way that is respectful, and not appropriating? …
LYLA: That’s a great question, actually. I think the litmus test for “Am I appropriating, or not?” is, “Am I benefiting with self-gain from this knowledge, or not?”
I think the appropriation comes when you’re using someone’s culture as a footstool to get something else
But let’s say you approach a community, and it’s about giving, you know, and you learn from it. The two temptations are to use it for money or to use it for reputation, right? A lot of people might take native knowledge and sell it for money. A lot of people might take native knowledge and then become the guru. Like, I’ve been taught by this person, and now I can teach it, and it’s like an ego boost. And so I think those are the two most extreme points.
We need to know who we are.
My big mantra is, you go to the communities, and you say, “How can I help, if at all?”
But perhaps more importantly, you’re going to show them they’re not alone in the world. And you’re going to show them that the people or the colonial culture that they’re surrounded by every day, [in which we’re just feeling suffocated, right. We’re just like, wow, this is so intense. Like, this is not what our and our world used to look like, right?] cares. You’re showing them an olive branch and like, Okay, who there is hope, like, this colonial culture, isn’t necessarily going to just take. There are givers here, and they want to support me. And that is healing just as much just knowing there’s relatives out there who care, that volunteer work. Yes, you’re building the house, or your whatever. But more deeply, you’re building trust, and you’re healing the past in your healing, the family ties that we have lost. And I think that’s an extremely potent to do, is “How can I help if at all?” even if it’s one day, a month, or whatever you can do. Just being in connection with the community around you.
KATHLEEN: Thank you. Well, wanting to respect your time and that you’ve given us so graciously, so Lyla, is there anything else that you would like to share with regard to anything that we’ve talked about, and knowing that there are people here who are very much involved in the Work That Reconnects and are committed to the great turning?
And the more we clean out and hollow ourselves, the more Creator can work through us.
I believe that every single human being on this planet was born with great purpose. And every single being on this planet is sacred. And every single being on this planet is beautiful. And that your body, your mind, your soul, your heart, are all parts of this very sacred apparatus is able to connect to a wealth of ancestral, angelic, being, whatever you want to call it. It is an ocean of love that is trying to get into this world. It just needs vessels. It needs windows to shine through. And the more we can clear up our window, the more It can shine through.
That clearing process to me is a process of self-love. Instead of blaming and shaming, “Why is my window so dirty? Oh, there must be something wrong with me. I’m such a terrible person.” – No. Look back to your childhood, what was going on there? Were you getting the love that you needed? Were you getting the support that you needed? Chances are, probably not, for most of us, right? So give yourself a break. Take some time to grieve what happened when you were [a child]. What kind of situation were you in? If you’re like me, you’ll say, “Oh, I had a perfect childhood.” Think again. Maybe not. Maybe that’s what we tell ourselves to not have to feel how imperfect it was. And that doesn’t mean our parents are bad, it just means they healed as much as they could. There were some things they couldn’t heal, and it’s our turn to fix those parts.
Clearing our window is really about healing ourselves, grieving, and, most importantly, coming into a place of self-love.
I had to see that that wasn’t my fault. A huge fundamental part of your window cleaning is: what happened to you is not your fault. And when you do that, a little more light comes through. My dream and my hope for each and every person here is that you get to a clear enough point where you are a hollow bone, that’s what our ancestors called it. “May I be a hollow bone. I am a beautiful being among beautiful beings.”
part of being what we are is being in service to the whole.
This article is an edited transcription of a talk given at the Gaian Gathering of the Work That Reconnects Network in November 2023. A video of the full talk is available on the WTR Network website here.
Dr. Lyla June Johnston (aka Lyla June) is an Indigenous musician, author, and community organizer of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne) and European lineages. Her multi-genre presentation style has engaged audiences across the globe towards personal, collective, and ecological healing. She blends her study of Human Ecology at Stanford, graduate work in Indigenous Pedagogy, and the traditional worldview she grew up with to inform her music, perspectives and solutions. Her doctoral research focused on the ways in which pre-colonial Indigenous Nations shaped large regions of Turtle Island (aka the Americas) to produce abundant food systems for humans and non-humans.